The thing with Rory: spoilery speculation thread

[randomgirl666.livejournal.com]

I'm beginning to think this "oh look, Rory's dead again" thing can't be accidental. It keeps happening too often. It may just be a running joke, playing on the fact that viewers will feel overprotective of Rory following series 5, but I can't help thinking there's something more to it.

You remember back in "Day of the Moon," the Doctor asks Rory what he remembers of his 2000 years as a plastic Roman? I keep thinking "why was that scene there?" Was it there purely to satisfy fan curiosity? Was it there to give Arthur Darvill something to do? Or is it more significant in some way?

Is Rory's life/death status in some way connected to the uncertain status of Amy's pregnancy? How much of the corridor scene in "The Doctor's Wife" was just the villain messing with Amy's head? Is there a grain of truth in there about Rory's resentment over waiting 2000 years? 

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[loolaa.livejournal.com]

I think it's significant too. I didn't actually notice he kept dying until everyone kept pointing it out (I don't pay much attention to poor Rory!). And once everyone pointed it out I figured there was no way a writer as good as Moffatt (or Gaiman, taking last episode into account) would repeat the same trick over in an attempt to shock or get cheap emotion out of viewers like some fans seem to think. There's got to be more to it.
(Either that, or I have too much faith in Moffat's writing XD)

Also, all the emphasis on how insecure Rory is about Amy and some fans thinking it's overdone. Then there's the corridor scene showing the complete reverse with Amy in obvious distress, more distressed than we've ever seen her. Visibly more distressed than she was when faced with Daleks and left alone blind in the forest with Weeping Angels and seeing various monsters.

And. I do think there is resentment in Rory. Or guilt in Amy. Or both. I haven't seen season 5 since it was aired but I remember getting a sense of resentment back then. Personally I think Amy is going to get hurt more than Rory, but I'm just guessing. It's not based on anything, just a feeling.

[donna-c-punk.livejournal.com]

Or guilt in Amy.

Agree with your thoughts, but I really think you're onto something with Amy's arc this season here. Because she was the one who immediately went to the Doctor wanting to be forgiven for what he did to the Time Lords in the last episode. She's carrying around a lot of guilt and she definitely sees it in the Doctor.

[loolaa.livejournal.com]

I forgot about Amy asking the Doctor if he wants to be forgiven. I'm seeing it too, two example of how guilty she might be feeling in the same episode.

Also, there seems to be so much emphasis at the moment on how much Amy loves Rory. The main example being when she was just a little red light talking and Rory misinterpreted her thinking she was speaking to the Doctor not him. Though Rory was the focus at the time, I'm seeing all of this from Amy's point of view. To me the emphasis seems to be more on Amy's love for Rory rather than the other way around (her anguish at leaving him again in the corridors, her view point. Her interpretation of 'delight', her view point.) It's making me nervous. I really hope she doesn't get hurt!

[mmgage.livejournal.com]

I have a friend who swears Rory is a fobbed Time Lord. I'm not so sure about that.
I read a great fanfic which explored the idea of "Time Can be Rewritten" - but rewritten by whom? The theory in the story, which really made a lot of sense to me, was that Amy is the one who's rewritten time. In doing so, what has she changed? Is Rory constantly dying somehow tied to guilt she might feel about running off with the Doctor before the wedding and/or forgetting the way Rory waited for her for 2000 years? Maybe she's punishing herself by making herself go through near-death experiences with Rory over and over again.
Ok, so that one's pretty out-there...

[randomgirl666.livejournal.com]

I have seen interviews with Karen Gillan where she says that Amy is more "settled" this season because her past has been rewritten to include her parents. I suppose it stands to reason that other things about her past have changed too.

[sashafarce.livejournal.com]

I believe there is something to it as well. I love Rory so I hope it's not a setup to have him really die once we all get complacent.

[shiny-rosie.livejournal.com]

I've wondered about this myself. I do think it's starting to border on the absurd and I'm really hoping there is some overarching reason to it because otherwise it's getting a bit silly.

I didn't like how they handled the end of CotBS at all...it felt like such a ploy and didn't even really seem to add anything to the characters...Rory's all like "I trust you, I know you'll never give up" and what does Amy do? Give up! She quits. I'd have bought it a lot more if she'd been refusing to stop and the Doctor had been all "its too late, I'm sorry, he's gone" and she'd just kept going and THEN he'd come back from the dead. I dunno.

On the other hand I really liked what they did in TDW because I think that (in Amy's head at least) there is still that resentment and guilt. I don't know that Rory is resentful in the least, but I could easily believe that Amy's own private guilt could give birth to the visions House showed her. So I was OK with that death. But even having it written and acted that well it was still hard to really take it seriously when "Oh My GOD! They Killed Rory!!" is bouncing around my head Every. Single. Episode. Sigh.

[shiny-rosie.livejournal.com]

Also...has anyone else noticed how he's said "I'm a nurse" every episode? Can't help but think that's important too...

[randomgirl666.livejournal.com]

I hadn't noticed it, but now you mention it I agree it's probably significant. It's like he has to keep reiterating it to prove it to someone (either himself or Amy, I'm not sure). Maybe because he spent so long NOT being a nurse but being a Roman?

[hilandmum.livejournal.com]

He's 'died' too many times for it to be coincidence. Also I wonder if it's important that the Doctor isn't a doctor of medicine, but Rory IS a nurse.

Finally was able to watch last night's episode and I know I'll have to watch it two or three more times to catch everything that happened/was said.

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